Via Metafilter comes this wonderful guide:
Temporal Anomalies in Time Travel Movies
What’s so great about the blog linked to above is that none of it actually matters. It is of no consequence if a time travel movie has temporal anomalies, i.e. plot holes, that would rip apart the fabric of the paradoxes holding time-space together – all that matters is if while watching a film you are so drawn in that you don’t notice issues that would rip apart the fabric of the paradoxes holding time-space together.
This goes for any narrative driven flick – ‘Aliens’ is a great example. I was so drawn into the pulsing story-driven/what happens next? narrative that I didn’t realise till after the credits a massive plot hole:
“Wait a minute – the Space Marines went down to the planet with Ripley and didn’t leave anybody on board the orbiting craft?? What the??”
Doesn’t matter. The film worked. Same for the first few Terminator films. As for Salvation…well…it is directed by the visionary behind ‘Charlie’s Angels: Full Throttle’. No more should be said.
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(Image above – James Cameron original concept art for ‘The Terminator’ – observe that Lance Henrikson was the original choice for the role of the ‘walking talking gun’)
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I was absolutely amazed by Terminator Salvation. Amazed at how incredibly human-less it was. McG (yes, that's his actual credit) disregards humanity completely and makes a less fun version of Transformers. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, the screenwriters, John Brancato and Michael Ferris, are the same guys that gave us Catwoman.
The phrase “I'll be back” simply doesn't work without an Austrian accent…
I was watching “Planet of the Apes” just this morning, which has some holes for me (how did apes evolve into intelligent creatures, but none of their physical features? They walk upright, but still have “hands” for feet..), but I also do not worry about these things as I love the movie/story.
On “Salvation”, I read an article where Bale seemingly warns us that this film would fall. He explains that he had agreed to do the film, despite reservations about 'McG', provided they re-work the script he was given. Then he says the writer's strike occurred. Bale assumed, wrongly, that the strike would merely delay the production of the movie. However, he said that the studios dictate that “blockbusters” are to be released on such-and-such date, no matter what. So no re-write, no time to tweak the movie, and if you read between the lines he was somewhat disappointed by that.
i agree that the story is the main thing and i can suspend my logic as long as it's drawing me in
…like in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure….
*cough, cough*
Forget about the basic premise for a second (which is weak and underdeveloped-can we at least explore the meaning behind Marcus Wright? Is he still human at all? And, if he is, what does it say about humanity??)
The collapse of the film is execution (no pun intended, Marcus). Sloppy editing, an embarrassing script, and a wooden performance from almost the entire cast (with exception to overly-campy Michael “Stay-the-Course” Ironside) produced one of the worst movies I've seen in years.
Terminator and McG
Terminator and McG