<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Are Bad Films of Any Value?</title> <atom:link href="http://thefilmtalk.com/2009/06/03/are-bad-films-of-any-value/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/are-bad-films-of-any-value/</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 13:13:51 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: Chris_rp</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/are-bad-films-of-any-value/#comment-2579</link> <dc:creator>Chris_rp</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:48:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=2447#comment-2579</guid> <description>Well, if you watch good to great films all the time, how can you say they&#039;re really well made and cohesive when you don&#039;t watch and ponder the the movies that are not so great? how can you tell it&#039;s good pizza when you haven&#039;t eaten a really bad one?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you watch good to great films all the time, how can you say they&#39;re really well made and cohesive when you don&#39;t watch and ponder the the movies that are not so great? how can you tell it&#39;s good pizza when you haven&#39;t eaten a really bad one?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris_rp</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/are-bad-films-of-any-value/#comment-2578</link> <dc:creator>Chris_rp</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:48:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=2447#comment-2578</guid> <description>Well, if you watch good to great films all the time, how can you say they&#039;re really well made and cohesive when you don&#039;t watch and ponder the the movies that are not so great? how can you tell it&#039;s good pizza when you haven&#039;t eaten a really bad one?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you watch good to great films all the time, how can you say they&#39;re really well made and cohesive when you don&#39;t watch and ponder the the movies that are not so great? how can you tell it&#39;s good pizza when you haven&#39;t eaten a really bad one?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tom</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/are-bad-films-of-any-value/#comment-2577</link> <dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:04:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=2447#comment-2577</guid> <description>Are bad films of any value? Well, they often seem to generate more discussion than average ones!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are bad films of any value? Well, they often seem to generate more discussion than average ones!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jett Loe</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/are-bad-films-of-any-value/#comment-2576</link> <dc:creator>Jett Loe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:15:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=2447#comment-2576</guid> <description>re: Terminator Salvation  does intention matter?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: Terminator Salvation  does intention matter?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kbm</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/are-bad-films-of-any-value/#comment-2575</link> <dc:creator>kbm</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:38:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=2447#comment-2575</guid> <description>Sorry to reply so late to this I hadn&#039;t seen this until now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I could summarize briefly why TS is so unusual, it would have to be that the film is falsely heroic on a level that is weirdly satiric. He didn&#039;t go as far as Strangelove (is that level achievable any longer?) but the safe bet is: the machines are essentially running a &#039;game&#039; on humans, the entire film is machine-plotted. Rebels are safely contained in their underground bunker, surrounded by a machine filled moat, they are lured easily to learning about a new Terminator, they are handed a code they think is the end of the war when it is actually their destruction, all dialogue, even John Connor&#039;s, is false, the only one with an individual brain, ie thinking for himself, is Marcus. The only one who recognizes it is the Pilot. Now I&#039;m not sure I believe in this auteur idea completely, but what I do know is masterpieces hide their real plots and real connections under a simplified surface to better deliver ah-ha moments, whether in the last moments of the film or hours, days, months later, and for me these moments followed me out the doors. With a series that began with time-bending (time travel game theory developed by machines) in the past and now ends with physical game-playing in our future with paradoxes as to who john conner really &#039;is&#039; makes for unusual human cosmology.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is our brief&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mstrmnd.com/log/1046&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mstrmnd.com/log/1046&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to reply so late to this I hadn&#39;t seen this until now.</p><p>If I could summarize briefly why TS is so unusual, it would have to be that the film is falsely heroic on a level that is weirdly satiric. He didn&#39;t go as far as Strangelove (is that level achievable any longer?) but the safe bet is: the machines are essentially running a &#39;game&#39; on humans, the entire film is machine-plotted. Rebels are safely contained in their underground bunker, surrounded by a machine filled moat, they are lured easily to learning about a new Terminator, they are handed a code they think is the end of the war when it is actually their destruction, all dialogue, even John Connor&#39;s, is false, the only one with an individual brain, ie thinking for himself, is Marcus. The only one who recognizes it is the Pilot. Now I&#39;m not sure I believe in this auteur idea completely, but what I do know is masterpieces hide their real plots and real connections under a simplified surface to better deliver ah-ha moments, whether in the last moments of the film or hours, days, months later, and for me these moments followed me out the doors. With a series that began with time-bending (time travel game theory developed by machines) in the past and now ends with physical game-playing in our future with paradoxes as to who john conner really &#39;is&#39; makes for unusual human cosmology.</p><p>This is our brief<br /><a href="http://www.mstrmnd.com/log/1046" rel="nofollow">http://www.mstrmnd.com/log/1046</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eric</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/are-bad-films-of-any-value/#comment-2574</link> <dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 14:47:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=2447#comment-2574</guid> <description>Exactly.  I&#039;m totally okay with a mindless, action-packed movie that&#039;s made just to entertain.  But there was a problem... this movie wasn&#039;t entertaining.  When I&#039;ve railed against this film in conversation, people have said, &quot;Relax, it&#039;s just a fun, summer action flick.&quot;  Well, that might be a good argument IF it were a fun movie.  Instead, I rolled my eyes and sighed more watching this movie than I did in &quot;Fast &amp; Furious.&quot;  At least that movie knows it&#039;s not a good movie.  But with &quot;Terminator Salvation&quot; it&#039;s quite apparent that the filmmakers actually think they&#039;re making a good movie...which is troubling to say the least.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly.  I&#39;m totally okay with a mindless, action-packed movie that&#39;s made just to entertain.  But there was a problem&#8230; this movie wasn&#39;t entertaining.  When I&#39;ve railed against this film in conversation, people have said, &#8220;Relax, it&#39;s just a fun, summer action flick.&#8221;  Well, that might be a good argument IF it were a fun movie.  Instead, I rolled my eyes and sighed more watching this movie than I did in &#8220;Fast &#038; Furious.&#8221;  At least that movie knows it&#39;s not a good movie.  But with &#8220;Terminator Salvation&#8221; it&#39;s quite apparent that the filmmakers actually think they&#39;re making a good movie&#8230;which is troubling to say the least.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jett Loe</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/are-bad-films-of-any-value/#comment-2573</link> <dc:creator>Jett Loe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:54:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=2447#comment-2573</guid> <description>Transforminators was pretty good - i&#039;ll raise ya with Transmorphers: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/06/05/lol-the-asylums-transformers-2-knock-off-transmorphers-fall-of-man-trailer/#idc-container&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/06/05/lol-the-asy...&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transforminators was pretty good &#8211; i&#39;ll raise ya with Transmorphers: <a href="http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/06/05/lol-the-asylums-transformers-2-knock-off-transmorphers-fall-of-man-trailer/#idc-container" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/06/05/lol-the-asy" rel="nofollow">http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/06/05/lol-the-asy</a>&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: peter</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/are-bad-films-of-any-value/#comment-2572</link> <dc:creator>peter</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:02:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=2447#comment-2572</guid> <description>While we&#039;re on the subject, if you still haven&#039;t seen this transforminators trailer, it&#039;s pretty hilarious: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcaNZ4iHSMw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcaNZ4iHSMw&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we&#39;re on the subject, if you still haven&#39;t seen this transforminators trailer, it&#39;s pretty hilarious: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcaNZ4iHSMw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcaNZ4iHSMw</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: K-Ann</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/are-bad-films-of-any-value/#comment-2571</link> <dc:creator>K-Ann</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 11:22:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=2447#comment-2571</guid> <description>My husband said when he saw it that it was good that the movie was an action film - you know there would be an explosion soon that would stop the dialogue</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband said when he saw it that it was good that the movie was an action film &#8211; you know there would be an explosion soon that would stop the dialogue</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jett Loe</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/are-bad-films-of-any-value/#comment-2570</link> <dc:creator>Jett Loe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:30:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=2447#comment-2570</guid> <description>terminator salvation</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>terminator salvation</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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