<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: The Film Talk &#8211; Part 62 &#8211; Hunger</title> <atom:link href="http://thefilmtalk.com/2009/04/25/hunger-review-podcast-steve-mcqueen/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/hunger-review-podcast-steve-mcqueen/</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 13:13:51 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2</generator> <item><title>By: The Film Talk &#187; Re-visiting &#8216;Hunger&#8217;, the Most Important Film I&#8217;ve Seen this Year</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/hunger-review-podcast-steve-mcqueen/#comment-2267</link> <dc:creator>The Film Talk &#187; Re-visiting &#8216;Hunger&#8217;, the Most Important Film I&#8217;ve Seen this Year</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:04:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=1634#comment-2267</guid> <description>[...] April we presented Episode 62 of TFT, focusing on ‘Hunger’, the astonishing feature film debut of the visual artist Steve McQueen, [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] April we presented Episode 62 of TFT, focusing on ‘Hunger’, the astonishing feature film debut of the visual artist Steve McQueen, [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: StanleyRumm</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/hunger-review-podcast-steve-mcqueen/#comment-2270</link> <dc:creator>StanleyRumm</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:07:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=1634#comment-2270</guid> <description>I just recalled my favourite documentary -the only one I can recall re-watching multiple times and enjoying it more each go...&lt;br&gt;American Movie. &lt;br&gt;As you say, it&#039;s to do with letting the story evolve rather than going in with an agenda. I dislike Michael Moore type stuff.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for Ooyay -congratulations, you pronounce it same way I do. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway the best &quot;art&quot;, be it painting, traditional movie, documentary or groundbreaking unique fiction is usually that which we are unsure of beforehand, but convinces us after we give it a go -leading us to someplace we never knew we wanted to be.&lt;br&gt;;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just recalled my favourite documentary -the only one I can recall re-watching multiple times and enjoying it more each go&#8230;<br />American Movie. <br />As you say, it&#39;s to do with letting the story evolve rather than going in with an agenda. I dislike Michael Moore type stuff.</p><p>As for Ooyay -congratulations, you pronounce it same way I do.</p><p>Anyway the best &#8220;art&#8221;, be it painting, traditional movie, documentary or groundbreaking unique fiction is usually that which we are unsure of beforehand, but convinces us after we give it a go -leading us to someplace we never knew we wanted to be.<br />;)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jett Loe</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/hunger-review-podcast-steve-mcqueen/#comment-2269</link> <dc:creator>Jett Loe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:46:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=1634#comment-2269</guid> <description>Documentary Action</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Documentary Action</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: StanleyRumm</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/hunger-review-podcast-steve-mcqueen/#comment-2268</link> <dc:creator>StanleyRumm</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:46:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=1634#comment-2268</guid> <description>I think the lack of replies during the documentary fest is mostly due to lack of exposure. We can&#039;t see them or know much about them so we can&#039;t have much to say.&lt;br&gt;Also, although I agree that a lot of documentaries are much better than what&#039;s coming from &#039;mainstream&#039;, I still somehow have a &quot;so what?&quot; feeling at the end of most documentaries that I don&#039;t get from movies.&lt;br&gt;eg. Religulous is probably the most recent, good, &#039;cinema&#039; documentary I&#039;ve seen recently. Although I enjoyed it on the whole, I can&#039;t shake the feeling that it belongs on TV. If, however, it was a fictional tale about a guy (Woody Allen?) trying out various religions and finding something stupid in each then that could make for a great movie.&lt;br&gt;...And we could also discuss/ dissect it at leisure, talking about how the story builds, the makeup, the camerawork, the lighting, certain shots, elements of the plot or whether we &#039;buy&#039; the concept or not.&lt;br&gt;We are _allowed_ to choose -or even not choose, but enjoy (or otherwise) the film/story for other reasons entirely.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With documentaries, you are kind of stuck with the underlying tale being told. There are other elements, but it&#039;s hard to get people involved in &quot;a worthy subject&quot; when they almost need to be aware or interested in the topic beforehand. It&#039;s like crying to the converted -which most documentaries do anyway in my opinion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the other hand, &quot;worthy&quot; films such as Andrei Rublev, Happiness, Zodiac or Chitty Chitty Bang Bang can be appreciated more without seeing them, from an enthusiastic (or otherwise) review or discussion, since you can portray your feelings on a wide variety of things other than the central theme itself. &lt;br&gt;Documentaries are good, but usually go for the jugular when sometimes a thousand little cuts is the only way to go. I happen to think &quot;Barney&quot; is putrid crap because he points out the obvious and says &quot;now kids don&#039;t this&quot; or &quot;do this&quot; without any real underlying context or reason -actually removing that analytic ability from young minds that should be prodded and inspired rather than told.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Documentaries can be guilty of this too. We need a bigger framework to be able to allow ourselves appreciate complexities and to allow us to build thought processes through -to work through them in our own thoughts (and discussions) rather than being told &quot;ABC&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fiction is the only way to do that. Proper fiction that is. The type that nobody buys. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;...By the way, can I cheekily point out there&#039;s an excellent book called Ooyay, available online, the likes of which you&#039;ve never seen or heard of before. :) Would make an excellent movie too of course. Maybe someday.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the lack of replies during the documentary fest is mostly due to lack of exposure. We can&#39;t see them or know much about them so we can&#39;t have much to say.<br />Also, although I agree that a lot of documentaries are much better than what&#39;s coming from &#39;mainstream&#39;, I still somehow have a &#8220;so what?&#8221; feeling at the end of most documentaries that I don&#39;t get from movies.<br />eg. Religulous is probably the most recent, good, &#39;cinema&#39; documentary I&#39;ve seen recently. Although I enjoyed it on the whole, I can&#39;t shake the feeling that it belongs on TV. If, however, it was a fictional tale about a guy (Woody Allen?) trying out various religions and finding something stupid in each then that could make for a great movie.<br />&#8230;And we could also discuss/ dissect it at leisure, talking about how the story builds, the makeup, the camerawork, the lighting, certain shots, elements of the plot or whether we &#39;buy&#39; the concept or not.<br />We are _allowed_ to choose -or even not choose, but enjoy (or otherwise) the film/story for other reasons entirely.</p><p>With documentaries, you are kind of stuck with the underlying tale being told. There are other elements, but it&#39;s hard to get people involved in &#8220;a worthy subject&#8221; when they almost need to be aware or interested in the topic beforehand. It&#39;s like crying to the converted -which most documentaries do anyway in my opinion.</p><p>On the other hand, &#8220;worthy&#8221; films such as Andrei Rublev, Happiness, Zodiac or Chitty Chitty Bang Bang can be appreciated more without seeing them, from an enthusiastic (or otherwise) review or discussion, since you can portray your feelings on a wide variety of things other than the central theme itself. <br />Documentaries are good, but usually go for the jugular when sometimes a thousand little cuts is the only way to go. I happen to think &#8220;Barney&#8221; is putrid crap because he points out the obvious and says &#8220;now kids don&#39;t this&#8221; or &#8220;do this&#8221; without any real underlying context or reason -actually removing that analytic ability from young minds that should be prodded and inspired rather than told.</p><p>Documentaries can be guilty of this too. We need a bigger framework to be able to allow ourselves appreciate complexities and to allow us to build thought processes through -to work through them in our own thoughts (and discussions) rather than being told &#8220;ABC&#8221;.</p><p>Fiction is the only way to do that. Proper fiction that is. The type that nobody buys.</p><p>&#8230;By the way, can I cheekily point out there&#39;s an excellent book called Ooyay, available online, the likes of which you&#39;ve never seen or heard of before. :) Would make an excellent movie too of course. Maybe someday.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: StanleyRumm</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/hunger-review-podcast-steve-mcqueen/#comment-2266</link> <dc:creator>StanleyRumm</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:07:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=1634#comment-2266</guid> <description>I just recalled my favourite documentary -the only one I can recall re-watching multiple times and enjoying it more each go...&lt;br&gt;American Movie. &lt;br&gt;As you say, it&#039;s to do with letting the story evolve rather than going in with an agenda. I dislike Michael Moore type stuff.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for Ooyay -congratulations, you pronounce it same way I do. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway the best &quot;art&quot;, be it painting, traditional movie, documentary or groundbreaking unique fiction is usually that which we are unsure of beforehand, but convinces us after we give it a go -leading us to someplace we never knew we wanted to be.&lt;br&gt;;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just recalled my favourite documentary -the only one I can recall re-watching multiple times and enjoying it more each go&#8230;<br />American Movie. <br />As you say, it&#39;s to do with letting the story evolve rather than going in with an agenda. I dislike Michael Moore type stuff.</p><p>As for Ooyay -congratulations, you pronounce it same way I do.</p><p>Anyway the best &#8220;art&#8221;, be it painting, traditional movie, documentary or groundbreaking unique fiction is usually that which we are unsure of beforehand, but convinces us after we give it a go -leading us to someplace we never knew we wanted to be.<br />;)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jett Loe</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/hunger-review-podcast-steve-mcqueen/#comment-2265</link> <dc:creator>Jett Loe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:46:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=1634#comment-2265</guid> <description>Documentary Action</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Documentary Action</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: StanleyRumm</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/hunger-review-podcast-steve-mcqueen/#comment-2264</link> <dc:creator>StanleyRumm</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:46:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=1634#comment-2264</guid> <description>I think the lack of replies during the documentary fest is mostly due to lack of exposure. We can&#039;t see them or know much about them so we can&#039;t have much to say.&lt;br&gt;Also, although I agree that a lot of documentaries are much better than what&#039;s coming from &#039;mainstream&#039;, I still somehow have a &quot;so what?&quot; feeling at the end of most documentaries that I don&#039;t get from movies.&lt;br&gt;eg. Religulous is probably the most recent, good, &#039;cinema&#039; documentary I&#039;ve seen recently. Although I enjoyed it on the whole, I can&#039;t shake the feeling that it belongs on TV. If, however, it was a fictional tale about a guy (Woody Allen?) trying out various religions and finding something stupid in each then that could make for a great movie.&lt;br&gt;...And we could also discuss/ dissect it at leisure, talking about how the story builds, the makeup, the camerawork, the lighting, certain shots, elements of the plot or whether we &#039;buy&#039; the concept or not.&lt;br&gt;We are _allowed_ to choose -or even not choose, but enjoy (or otherwise) the film/story for other reasons entirely.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With documentaries, you are kind of stuck with the underlying tale being told. There are other elements, but it&#039;s hard to get people involved in &quot;a worthy subject&quot; when they almost need to be aware or interested in the topic beforehand. It&#039;s like crying to the converted -which most documentaries do anyway in my opinion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the other hand, &quot;worthy&quot; films such as Andrei Rublev, Happiness, Zodiac or Chitty Chitty Bang Bang can be appreciated more without seeing them, from an enthusiastic (or otherwise) review or discussion, since you can portray your feelings on a wide variety of things other than the central theme itself. &lt;br&gt;Documentaries are good, but usually go for the jugular when sometimes a thousand little cuts is the only way to go. I happen to think &quot;Barney&quot; is putrid crap because he points out the obvious and says &quot;now kids don&#039;t this&quot; or &quot;do this&quot; without any real underlying context or reason -actually removing that analytic ability from young minds that should be prodded and inspired rather than told.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Documentaries can be guilty of this too. We need a bigger framework to be able to allow ourselves appreciate complexities and to allow us to build thought processes through -to work through them in our own thoughts (and discussions) rather than being told &quot;ABC&quot;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fiction is the only way to do that. Proper fiction that is. The type that nobody buys. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;...By the way, can I cheekily point out there&#039;s an excellent book called Ooyay, available online, the likes of which you&#039;ve never seen or heard of before. :) Would make an excellent movie too of course. Maybe someday.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the lack of replies during the documentary fest is mostly due to lack of exposure. We can&#39;t see them or know much about them so we can&#39;t have much to say.<br />Also, although I agree that a lot of documentaries are much better than what&#39;s coming from &#39;mainstream&#39;, I still somehow have a &#8220;so what?&#8221; feeling at the end of most documentaries that I don&#39;t get from movies.<br />eg. Religulous is probably the most recent, good, &#39;cinema&#39; documentary I&#39;ve seen recently. Although I enjoyed it on the whole, I can&#39;t shake the feeling that it belongs on TV. If, however, it was a fictional tale about a guy (Woody Allen?) trying out various religions and finding something stupid in each then that could make for a great movie.<br />&#8230;And we could also discuss/ dissect it at leisure, talking about how the story builds, the makeup, the camerawork, the lighting, certain shots, elements of the plot or whether we &#39;buy&#39; the concept or not.<br />We are _allowed_ to choose -or even not choose, but enjoy (or otherwise) the film/story for other reasons entirely.</p><p>With documentaries, you are kind of stuck with the underlying tale being told. There are other elements, but it&#39;s hard to get people involved in &#8220;a worthy subject&#8221; when they almost need to be aware or interested in the topic beforehand. It&#39;s like crying to the converted -which most documentaries do anyway in my opinion.</p><p>On the other hand, &#8220;worthy&#8221; films such as Andrei Rublev, Happiness, Zodiac or Chitty Chitty Bang Bang can be appreciated more without seeing them, from an enthusiastic (or otherwise) review or discussion, since you can portray your feelings on a wide variety of things other than the central theme itself. <br />Documentaries are good, but usually go for the jugular when sometimes a thousand little cuts is the only way to go. I happen to think &#8220;Barney&#8221; is putrid crap because he points out the obvious and says &#8220;now kids don&#39;t this&#8221; or &#8220;do this&#8221; without any real underlying context or reason -actually removing that analytic ability from young minds that should be prodded and inspired rather than told.</p><p>Documentaries can be guilty of this too. We need a bigger framework to be able to allow ourselves appreciate complexities and to allow us to build thought processes through -to work through them in our own thoughts (and discussions) rather than being told &#8220;ABC&#8221;.</p><p>Fiction is the only way to do that. Proper fiction that is. The type that nobody buys.</p><p>&#8230;By the way, can I cheekily point out there&#39;s an excellent book called Ooyay, available online, the likes of which you&#39;ve never seen or heard of before. :) Would make an excellent movie too of course. Maybe someday.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jett Loe</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/hunger-review-podcast-steve-mcqueen/#comment-2263</link> <dc:creator>Jett Loe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:04:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=1634#comment-2263</guid> <description>Film Criticism</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Film Criticism</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Phil</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/hunger-review-podcast-steve-mcqueen/#comment-2262</link> <dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 21:57:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=1634#comment-2262</guid> <description>I know.  It&#039;s been good stuff, too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yer just makin&#039; us think too much...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know.  It&#39;s been good stuff, too.</p><p>Yer just makin&#39; us think too much&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jett Loe</title><link>http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/hunger-review-podcast-steve-mcqueen/#comment-2261</link> <dc:creator>Jett Loe</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:37:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=1634#comment-2261</guid> <description>Yes, Gareth and I noticed that the comments dropped waaaaaay down after we went to the Full Frame Festival... art is good for you - it doesn&#039;t all have to be &#039;Wolverine&#039;! ;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Gareth and I noticed that the comments dropped waaaaaay down after we went to the Full Frame Festival&#8230; art is good for you &#8211; it doesn&#39;t all have to be &#39;Wolverine&#39;! ;)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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