Comments on: Gomorra / Gomorrah http://thefilmtalk.com/blog/gomorra-review-gomorrah/ Tue, 22 May 2012 13:13:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jett Loehttp://thefilmtalk.com/blog/gomorra-review-gomorrah/#comment-1986 Jett Loe Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:24:45 +0000 http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=554#comment-1986 i can understand the difficulty with the subtitles + as referenced in the post, if you're not familiar with the milieu it's going to be an opaque experience - i can understand the difficulty with the subtitles + as referenced in the post, if you're not familiar with the milieu it's going to be an opaque experience -

]]> By: Jett Loehttp://thefilmtalk.com/blog/gomorra-review-gomorrah/#comment-1985 Jett Loe Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:24:45 +0000 http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=554#comment-1985 i can understand the difficulty with the subtitles + as referenced in the post, if you're not familiar with the milieu it's going to be an opaque experience - i can understand the difficulty with the subtitles + as referenced in the post, if you're not familiar with the milieu it's going to be an opaque experience -

]]> By: Richard Reganhttp://thefilmtalk.com/blog/gomorra-review-gomorrah/#comment-1984 Richard Regan Sun, 25 Oct 2009 04:30:22 +0000 http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=554#comment-1984 I found there were insufficient subtitles. Long stretches of dialougue occured which were not translated and many of the titles were disjointed I found there were insufficient subtitles. Long stretches of dialougue occured which were not translated and many of the titles were disjointed

]]> By: golfman_storyhttp://thefilmtalk.com/blog/gomorra-review-gomorrah/#comment-1983 golfman_story Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:47:20 +0000 http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=554#comment-1983 What a useful post here. Very informative for me..TQ friends...<br><br><a href="http://sain-web.com" rel="nofollow">http://sain-web.com</a> What a useful post here. Very informative for me..TQ friends…

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]]> By: Jett Loehttp://thefilmtalk.com/blog/gomorra-review-gomorrah/#comment-1982 Jett Loe Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:45:29 +0000 http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=554#comment-1982 no problem re: multiple posts = will try to delete them! ;) no problem re: multiple posts = will try to delete them! ;)

]]> By: Joe Nolanhttp://thefilmtalk.com/blog/gomorra-review-gomorrah/#comment-1981 Joe Nolan Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:07:33 +0000 http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=554#comment-1981 Good point. On a less serious note - but a related one - the first time I saw the film The Brotherhood of the Wolf, I was really excited - French Kung Fu Werewolves!?!?!?<br>However, I got a DVD from the library that only offered the dubbed version. It was terrible! I ranted for months about how overrated that movie was - all my pals loved it - until one observant chap realized it was the dubbing that was getting in the way. Needless to say, I saw the subtitled version and was wildly entertained. :) All of this to say that these kinds of issues with dubbing, translations/subtitles. and even dialects between regions in the same country can definitely affect the message of a film. Especially when addressing a foreign audience that has no context for understanding these subtleties. That said, I still think Gomorrah is worth seeing and worth seeing in the theater. Those gunshots are the loudest I've ever heard in a movie. <br><br>Sorry about the multiple posts earlier. I connected through Facebook and the posting was acting sketchy. Good point. On a less serious note – but a related one – the first time I saw the film The Brotherhood of the Wolf, I was really excited – French Kung Fu Werewolves!?!?!?
However, I got a DVD from the library that only offered the dubbed version. It was terrible! I ranted for months about how overrated that movie was – all my pals loved it – until one observant chap realized it was the dubbing that was getting in the way. Needless to say, I saw the subtitled version and was wildly entertained. :) All of this to say that these kinds of issues with dubbing, translations/subtitles. and even dialects between regions in the same country can definitely affect the message of a film. Especially when addressing a foreign audience that has no context for understanding these subtleties. That said, I still think Gomorrah is worth seeing and worth seeing in the theater. Those gunshots are the loudest I've ever heard in a movie.

Sorry about the multiple posts earlier. I connected through Facebook and the posting was acting sketchy.

]]> By: Jett Loehttp://thefilmtalk.com/blog/gomorra-review-gomorrah/#comment-1980 Jett Loe Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:55:13 +0000 http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=554#comment-1980 I think you're spot on Joe re: The 'Initiation' and 'Beach' scenes = great cinema.<br><br>Re: identification with the characters - i was wondering about that while watching = one problem is that if you're not from Italy a lot of the picture is going to be opaque; there's an interesting interview with the director of the pic in this months' 'American Cinematographer' in which it's pointed out that people that don't speak Italian won't pick up on the various class/geographical issues that are apparent in the characters <i>accents</i>. <br><br>With that in mind, perhaps to 'natives' aren't so disconnected? I think you're spot on Joe re: The 'Initiation' and 'Beach' scenes = great cinema.

Re: identification with the characters – i was wondering about that while watching = one problem is that if you're not from Italy a lot of the picture is going to be opaque; there's an interesting interview with the director of the pic in this months' 'American Cinematographer' in which it's pointed out that people that don't speak Italian won't pick up on the various class/geographical issues that are apparent in the characters accents.

With that in mind, perhaps to 'natives' aren't so disconnected?

]]> By: Joe Nolanhttp://thefilmtalk.com/blog/gomorra-review-gomorrah/#comment-1979 Joe Nolan Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:50:11 +0000 http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=554#comment-1979 I found much to like in G. The initiation scene with the young boys in the bullet-proof vests was unforgettable as was the beach scene with the automatic weapons. G also has a tremendous sound-scape - another great reason to check it in the theater instead of DVD. However, while I felt some empathy with the moonlighting tailor, Gomorrah has a terrible flaw. We never connect with or care about any of the characters. This may be partly do to the complexity of the interweaving plot lines, but I suspect it is because - in an effort to evoke the apathy and disconnection in the character's lives - the audience is ultimately left apathetic and disconnected from their stories. Some may defend this saying something like "that's the point". However, it begs the question, "Why bother?" I found much to like in G. The initiation scene with the young boys in the bullet-proof vests was unforgettable as was the beach scene with the automatic weapons. G also has a tremendous sound-scape – another great reason to check it in the theater instead of DVD. However, while I felt some empathy with the moonlighting tailor, Gomorrah has a terrible flaw. We never connect with or care about any of the characters. This may be partly do to the complexity of the interweaving plot lines, but I suspect it is because – in an effort to evoke the apathy and disconnection in the character's lives – the audience is ultimately left apathetic and disconnected from their stories. Some may defend this saying something like “that's the point”. However, it begs the question, “Why bother?”

]]> By: The Film Talk » Last Chance to See ‘Gomorrah’ and ‘Two Lovers’ at the Belcourthttp://thefilmtalk.com/blog/gomorra-review-gomorrah/#comment-1978 The Film Talk » Last Chance to See ‘Gomorrah’ and ‘Two Lovers’ at the Belcourt Wed, 25 Mar 2009 04:42:56 +0000 http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=554#comment-1978 [...] Our Review of ‘Gomorrah’ / ‘Gomorra’ [...] [...] Our Review of ‘Gomorrah’ / ‘Gomorra’ [...]

]]> By: Jett Loehttp://thefilmtalk.com/blog/gomorra-review-gomorrah/#comment-1977 Jett Loe Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:38:50 +0000 http://www.thefilmtalk.com/?p=554#comment-1977 Yeah, film can be many different things = it depends on context/what people want or are expecting:<br><br>Had a conversation with a guy the other day who saw 'Silent Light' at the Belcourt and absolutely hated it - he found it slow, boring and dull and hated the cinematography. I imagine that he wanted a different experience, maybe he wanted to relax and be told a story rather than having to do some work - if you approach a visit to 'Silent Light' they way you would an art gallery for instance then you'll have a dramatically different experience.<br><br>Same with Gomorra - it's not an entertainment. Yeah, film can be many different things = it depends on context/what people want or are expecting:

Had a conversation with a guy the other day who saw 'Silent Light' at the Belcourt and absolutely hated it – he found it slow, boring and dull and hated the cinematography. I imagine that he wanted a different experience, maybe he wanted to relax and be told a story rather than having to do some work – if you approach a visit to 'Silent Light' they way you would an art gallery for instance then you'll have a dramatically different experience.

Same with Gomorra – it's not an entertainment.

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